Sermon Transcript – All Prophesy?

Series A – Pentecost Sunday – Sunday, May 28, 2023 | Pr. Chris Rosebrough

Welcome to the Teaching Ministry of Kongsvinger Lutheran Church. Kongsvinger is a beacon for the Gospel of Jesus Christ and is located on the plains of Northwestern Minnesota.
We proclaim Christ and Him crucified for our sins and salvation by grace through faith alone, and now, here’s a message from Pastor Chris Rosebrough:
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0:22The holy Gospel
0:29According to Saint John the seventh chapter [Music]
0:36on the last day of the feast the great day Jesus stood up and cried out if anyone thirsts let him come to me and
0:42drink whoever believes in me as the scripture has said out of his heart will flow rivers of Living Water now this he
0:50said to the about the spirit whom those who believed in him were to receive for as yet the spirit had not yet been given
0:57because Jesus was not yet glorified this is the gospel of the Lord in the name of
1:03Jesus all right here are the words of Our Lord from our gospel text today if anyone
1:09thirsts let him come to me and drink whoever believes in me as the scripture
1:14has said out of his heart will flow rivers of Living Water it’s important to
1:19note here based upon how much confusion there is because of Pentecostalism Jesus is not talking about rivers of cuckoo
1:27juice flowing from with inside of you which would make you lose control of yourself instead rivers of Living Water
1:33the text specifically says are a reference to the Holy Spirit and it’s with that in mind that we
1:40should consider what is happening in our second reading today from the book of Acts the great day of Pentecost and
1:47Peter’s use of the Prophet Joel’s Prophecy from Joel chapter 2 what are we to make of it because it makes it sound
1:54like every single one of us can prophesy and you know what that’s true now I will
2:03note here at the end of the sermon we will not be having you sign up for Jennifer leclaire’s School of the
2:08prophets there will be no prophetic activations today either in fact if you
2:13understand what is meant here when it talks about everybody man woman slave free Jew Gentile all prophesying you’ll
2:22recognize something important by the end of this hopefully the scriptures will convince you all that many of you if not
2:29all of you have already been doing that because there is a true sense in which we all prophesy and you’ll note then it
2:37says also in Our Gospel text that the spirit had not yet been given because Jesus was not yet glorified when you
2:44read the Old Testament in fact our Old Testament text today is super helpful in this regard you’ll note that people
2:50having the Holy Spirit on them was a rarity it was not a common thing and
2:56even in our in our Old Testament text today the 70 elders who received a
3:01portion of the spirit that was on Moses in what Spirit would that be the Holy Spirit they didn’t prophesy or continue
3:08to prophesy for very long there were two hell holdovers eldad and me dad sons of
3:14yodad and uh yeah gotcha okay
3:23sorry for the interruption that was gratuitous Pastor jokes eldad and me dad the two holdovers they
3:32were still prophesying and you’ll note that people were thinking what we’ve got to put an end to this we got we got to
3:38stop this we got to control this and so they went to Joshua and told Joshua and
3:43then Joshua comes and tells Moses what’s going on he says my Lord Moses stopped
3:50them as if you can stop the Holy Spirit anyway that’s not going to work by the way so Moses says these words are you
3:57jealous for my sake what did all the Lord’s people were prophets Ah that’s a good that’s a good
4:04way what that all the Lord’s people were Prophets but isn’t that true of all of
4:10us as Christians I’m now I’m not talking about the office of profit that that
4:15office is closed by the way God spoke to us in the past by the prophets and the apostles uh they’re actually the
4:22prophets of old and then he spoken to us by the apostles but none of us are those things oh what that all my people were
4:29prophets and what were all that and me dad doing they were prophesying they were telling people about the wonders of God think of eldad and me dad kind of as
4:37a a down payment on what was going to be happening on the day of Pentecost and
4:42Moses basically said no I wish they were I wish everybody everybody would prophesy that the Lord’s Spirit would be
4:48on all people and that’s the big promise that we have is that Christ would send the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will
4:55be given without measure to every Christian regardless of their Heritage regardless of their gender regardless of
5:02their social status this is absolutely most certainly true and so we we
5:08consider then what is written for us in the book of Acts it says when the day of Pentecost arrived all the Christians
5:14there’s only 120 of them are all together in one place and suddenly there came from Heaven a sound like a mighty
5:21rushing wind it filled the entire house where they were sitting and divided tongues as a fire appeared to them and
5:28rested on each of them and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to
5:33speak in other tongues as the spirit gave them utterance and we know from
5:38this text this wasn’t gibberish this wasn’t what passes for tongues today I
5:44remember last week in the men’s bible study I showed the guys you know a historical bit of information back it
5:52was it 1901 January of 1901 there was a woman who was attending Charles parham’s
5:59Church and she it is it is written in the annals of Pentecost history she is
6:05the first person to receive since the time of the Apostles the gift of tongues
6:11and she apparently couldn’t speak English for three whole days and was even given the ability to write in
6:18Chinese and there was an actual document there was a scan a photograph of this
6:23document of hers where she wrote in Chinese and uh yeah it’s embarrassing
6:30um no Chinese Scholars are studying this document today and going wow what a
6:35miracle but you’ll note that uh you know what passes for tongues today could have bought a Hyundai should have bought a
6:41Kia that’s not that’s not a language that’s something totally different and
6:48so those who were dwelling in Jerusalem who were in town because God had commanded them to be there for the Feast
6:55of Pentecost they were all hearing as the text says that they were hearing the
7:02in their own tongues the mighty works of God and it goes on to even give us a
7:07list of the of the languages that these Christians by the power of the Holy Spirit were speaking in and include
7:14parthenians and medes elamites residents of Mesopotamia Judea Cappadocia Pontius
7:19in Asia phrygia pamphilia Egypt and parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene and
7:25visitors from Rome both Jews and proselytes cretans and Arabians we hear them telling in our own tongues the
7:32mighty works of God they knew exactly what they were saying and you’ll note
7:40here in proclaiming the mighty works of
7:45God God they were truly prophesying
7:50right yes that’s exactly what they were doing now a little bit of a reminder
7:56Jesus in The Gospel of John in chapters 14 15 and 16 explains to us what the
8:04holy spirit will do and why the holy spirit will be sent and so Jesus says in
8:12chapter 14 of the Gospel of John verse 15 if you love me you will guard you
8:17will keep my Commandments I will ask the father and he will give you another
8:22helper to be with you forever even the spirit of Truth now stop for a second
8:28here don’t let these words not have any strong value in your mind the Holy
8:36Spirit here Jesus is referring to him as what the spirit of Truth
8:43and one of the things I can say about so many so-called manifestations of the Holy Spirit today is that those
8:50manifestations don’t come with truth they come with lies and you’ll note that
8:56even the great enemies of the church including the atheists are paying attention Bill Johnson back a few months
9:02ago was speaking at a church I think in Missouri and uh and one it was part of a conference that they were having there
9:08this is the same conference where Bill Johnson let everybody know that if anybody attends the Bethel School of
9:15Supernatural Ministry they can’t even pass to the next grade after a certain level unless they’ve given three false
9:22prophecies that is that is on record you’ll note that Jesus Christ could have never
9:28graduated from Hogwarts because well Jesus never once spoke of false prophecy
9:36in fact none of the prophets of the Old Testament could pass the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry because none of
9:41them gave false prophecies either not the true prophets of God but you’ll note the spirit of Truth is
9:48is the one spoken of here but talking about the atheists and their condemnations of so-called Christians
9:54there was a woman there at this conference who claimed that uh during
10:00the conference God miraculously healed her it just so happens that she had I think it was diabetes and as a result of
10:07an advanced case of diabetes she lost some of her toes and so she claims that
10:13God grew her toes back during the healing portion of the conference but
10:19the atheists uh Johnny on the spot decided that they were going to challenge this and they put an entire website together and even got some
10:25national media and their campaign was called show us the toes
10:32show us the toes we want to see them let’s see these Toes that have grown
10:37back and guess what no photos of the grown back toes are forthcoming despite
10:43all the pressure you ought to know why because the spirit that operates in so many of these churches isn’t the spirit of truth it’s the spirit of error and
10:50that’s a different Spirit altogether and Jesus says that when the Holy Spirit comes he is the spirit of Truth whom the
10:56world cannot receive because it neither sees him nor knows him but you know him
11:02for he dwells with you and he will be with you you’ll note here all of yo that
11:08are baptized penitent Believers in Jesus Christ you now since Pentecost you have
11:14the Holy Spirit you don’t have to worry so think of well I don’t speak and gibberish right that’s not a sign of the
11:19Holy Spirit right you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you and Jesus says I will not leave you as orphans those who
11:25claim that Christians didn’t have the Holy Spirit from about the death of the Apostles until Charles Parham showed up
11:31in the Azusa Street Revival occurred in Los Angeles back in the early 20th century would basically accuse Jesus
11:37wrongfully of leaving the Christian church as complete orphans because apparently as The Story Goes read it in
11:44uh in one of the eyewitness accounts of the Azusa Street Revival the claim is is
11:50that the Holy Spirit left the church because the Holy Spirit was grieved by what had happened in the church because
11:56the church got organized that the Holy Spirit was opposed to pastors and there
12:02being ecclesiology and liturgy and things like this so the Holy Spirit was grieved by all of this and disappeared
12:08and just abandoned the church altogether until the Azusa Street Revival it’s just
12:14a nonsensical narrative if you think about it Jesus on the other hand says I will not leave you as orphans I will
12:21come to you yet a little while in the world will see me no more but you will see me because I live you will also live
12:27and in that day you will know that I and them and that I am in the father and you
12:33and me and I and you and whoever has my Commandments keeps them it is he who loves me and he who loves me Will Be
12:40Loved by my father and I will love him and manifest myself to him and Judas of
12:45course is not included this but it goes on to say these things I have spoken to you while I’m still with
12:51you but the helper the Holy Spirit whom the father will send in my name he will
12:57teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you important to note that one of the one of
13:03the jobs of the Holy Spirit was to help the apostles to remember correctly the
13:10things that Jesus said and did I remember Dr Rod rosenblatt kind of
13:16jumping off of off of a movie at the time that was in the theaters and it was not a very good movie Total Recall on
13:22Arnold Schwarzenegger yeah yeah he he says that this is the promise of the Holy Spirit to bring to the apostles
13:29mind the gift of Total Recall and I thought okay I’ll go with it and so all these decades later still using it as a
13:35metaphor I think it makes sense and so you’ll know that this is what Christ promises again nothing about cuckoo
13:41juice or strange things like that and then in chapter 15 it says but when the
13:46helper come comes whom I will send to you from the Father the spirit of Truth
13:52note the redundancy important who proceeds from the father he will bear witness about
14:00me he will bear witness about me a good way to think of that is that
14:07the Holy Spirit isn’t about drawing attention to himself
14:12the Holy Spirit I’ve heard it said and still use this metaphor he’s the ultimate PR guy for Jesus Christ all
14:19right his one and only job is to have you hear the great wonders of God that
14:25God has done through Jesus Christ and so the Holy Spirit Bears witness about
14:30Jesus if you were to meet the Holy Spirit and have a chat with him and say hey Holy Spirit nice to meet you he’d
14:36say hey it’s great to meet you too can I tell you about Jesus you are you Jesus
14:41is the best thing ever oh my goodness his love his Mercy his grace did you know that he bled and died for you on
14:48the cross this is the holy spirit is all about that right and so he will bear witness about me and
14:56you also listen to what Jesus says in verse chapter 15 verse 27
15:02you also will bear witness because you’ve been with me from the beginning and isn’t that what the apostles did
15:08they bore witness about Christ and then in chapter 16
15:14um Jesus goes on to talk more about the the work of the Holy Spirit I did not
15:20say these things to you from the beginning because I was with you but now I’m going to him who sent me and none of
15:25you have asked me where you are going but because I’ve said these things you you have sorrow that has filled your
15:30heart nevertheless I tell you the truth it is to your advantage that I go away if I do not go away the helper will not
15:38come but if I go I will send him to you
15:44and when he comes he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness
15:49and judgment concerning sin because they do not believe in me concerning righteousness because I go to the father
15:56and you will see me no longer concerning judgment because the ruler of this world is judged and so the spirit of Truth
16:05when he arrives he convicts the world of sin and unbelief and righteousness and
16:11causes people to Proclaim the wonders of God this is most certainly true but now
16:19we get to our text from the book of Acts and in the book of Acts we have some things that we’ve got to deal with and
16:26that is namely to begin with this this prophecy of Joel but I need to put it in context first so the day of Acts we’ve
16:33already talked about how it has arrived people are speaking in tongues people from all over the world are hearing the
16:39Wonders the mighty works of God in their own languages wondering what this means
16:44and well some of them said they were mocking and said well they’ve got to be
16:50filled with new wine and Peter stands up to put that slander Down Standing with eleven he lift up his voice and address
16:56the men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem let this be known to you give ear to my words for these people are not
17:02drunk as you suppose since it’s only the third hour of the day I know it’s 5 p.m somewhere but not in Jerusalem this
17:09morning right that’s the point that he’s making but this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel and watch how
17:15he handles this text in the last days
17:21how long ago was this we’re up we’re almost 2 000 years on
17:27from this event too without in the last days what does that tell you about when the last days
17:33began right we’ve been in them for 2 000 years you know this is why I keep thinking
17:40Thursday is the day all right how long can this continue to drag on so the last
17:45days in the last days it shall be God declares I will pour out my spirit on
17:51All Flesh your sons and your daughters shall prophesy does this mean your sons
17:59and daughters will be prophets that will be placed into the office of prophet Ken Copeland style right remember when Ken
18:05Copeland said speaking from the office of the Prophet covid-19 I command you to
18:11come down you know this is nonsense right there’s there’s nobody in the office of profit today
18:17but you’re going to note something here and that is is that this isn’t talking about that kind of Prophecy it’s not
18:26talking about what Nostradamus did I heard a pastor recently invoke
18:31Nostradamus in this context by the way people you know the world they refer to Nostradamus as what a prophet
18:38balagna okay did Nostradamus ever tell anybody about the great wonders and
18:44mighty works of God call Sinners to repent of their sins and Trust in their crucified and Risen Savior who loved
18:52them so much that he laid down their life for them no
18:57Nostradamus would take a little too much nutmeg and have hallucinations and write
19:03down the things that he saw in his hallucinogenic State I didn’t know you can do that wouldn’t nutmeg but apparently so he’s not a prophet he’s a
19:12fortune teller he’s a future seer right that’s what he is he’s not a prophet and
19:19prophecy has nothing to do with being future seers have you if you want to know what the prophets sound like read
19:26Isaiah read Jeremiah we worked our whole way through the book of Jeremiah not too
19:32long ago did any of them sound like Nostradamus to you the Jeremiah not at all and we’re going
19:39to be working our way through the Minor Prophets during the summer and I can assure you when you hear the Minor
19:44Prophets You know what they sound like a bunch of guys calling a bunch of Sinners to repentance assuring them of
19:50the Forgiveness of their sins if they’ll abandon their idolatry and their tepid worship and and some of them are a
19:56little more fiery than others and I think of Amos when we get to that you know I when you guys remember Famous
20:02Amos cookies is that still a thing okay whenever I hear the word Amos I cannot help but think about chocolate
20:08chocolatey goodness but when you read the prophet Amos that’s the last thing
20:13that’s going to come to your mind it’s it’s reading Amos is like invoking Hellfire and brimstone it’s this guy
20:19just doesn’t hold anything back but you’re going to know he sounds nothing like any of the YouTube prophets
20:25today and do the YouTube prophets today proclaim the mighty works of God
20:31you know in each and every episode of Prophecy Bingo that we’ve played we’ve I’ve never heard any of these people
20:38proclaiming the mighty works of God instead they sound like people who need to be locked up because they’re a threat
20:45to themselves and others because they’re not mentally stable that’s what they sound like but the prophets of the Bible they don’t
20:53sound like prognosticators or fortune tellers or soothsayers and yes there are prophecies spattered throughout the
21:00prophets regarding the future but those are the little things in the scriptures not the big things the big things is the
21:07call to repentance so in what way then are we to understand hear this prophecy of Amos that sons and
21:15daughters that they’re all going to prophesy well I can’t think of a better way to understand this than what is
21:22written in First Peter chapter four here’s what he says in verse 7. the end
21:27of all things is at hand does that sound like the end of days to you the last days yes no similar theme the end of all
21:34things is at hand therefore be self-controlled
21:39be sober minded hmm
21:45self-controlled sober minded those are not things that we can say that Pentecostals are known for right but
21:52that’s what true Christians who have the Holy Spirit are called to do and you do this for the sake of your prayers above
21:58all keep loving one another earnestly
22:03let that one sink in for a second I can tell you this from experience pretending
22:09to speak gibberish and saying that that’s tongues is much easier much
22:15easier than actually loving other people because you’re going to note here the
22:21person who is drawing attention to themselves if I look at me I I can speak in tongues right
22:28those are arrogant people who are they focused in on themselves and the Holy Spirit that they are believing in isn’t
22:34pointing everybody to Jesus it’s pointing them to them right but you want to talk about the
22:42real work of the Holy Spirit let’s talk about how well you’re getting along together shall we right and you’re going
22:50to note here I am Pastor here and I know for a fact that some of you don’t get
22:56along at times in fact I know that some of you get
23:01under the skin of other people and guess what and other people will tell you Roseboro gets under their skin
23:08right and what do we do when we get under each other’s skins do we treat
23:13each other with kindness with love no what do we do we complain and we cast
23:20aspersions we lie we and we just let the ich Fester
23:27but by the power of the holy spirit scripture says we are to mortify our sinful flesh
23:32this is all as a result of sin and proof positive that we all are all qualified
23:39in receiving Jesus as Savior because Christ only died for the ungodly that’s you and me
23:45so above all keep loving one another earnestly since love listen to the words covers a
23:53multitude of sins but you don’t understand that person did such and such a thing really upset me and I’m really
23:58mad about it uh-huh I get it okay but love covers a multitude of sins
24:05show Hospitality to one another without grumbling as each one has received a
24:11gift use it to serve one another as good stewards of God’s varied Grace and here
24:16it is here’s the part that applies to off all of us whoever speaks as one who
24:22speaks Oracles of God oracles ooh that kind of invokes like
24:28the Matrix movie right remember the Oracle you know yeah she’s a little kind of mystical too little overcooked here
24:34but here’s the thing um do we not have oracles from God
24:41do hang on a second here do I still have that no it’s God bummer uh there was a
24:47big old Bible back here at one point but at last it has gone missing it’s a historical artifact of Kong’s finger but
24:53you haven’t seen those big Bibles you know they have these things called pages in them yeah it’s like 66 books and
25:01they’re all the Oracles of God and so when you and I
25:06tell people the truth about their sin about their savior about the crucified
25:13one who bled and died for their sins Rose bodily from the grave on the third day ascended into heaven the one to whom
25:20all authority is given and that he’s coming again to judge the living and the dead and we assure them of the
25:25Forgiveness of their sins or even if necessary correct them for their false beliefs and say the scriptures say God
25:31says are you not prophesying
25:37yeah you are and that’s what’s called for here and you’re going to note something here
25:44whenever you speak God’s words is it something you’re so comfortable with
25:49that you just do it all the time no if you’re like anybody you struggle
25:57at times it’s a little bit nerve-wracking anxiety causing to actually say you know I I need to let
26:05you know um fellow co-worker of mine that uh what you’re saying is wrong your opinions
26:12contradict the word of God yeah you’ll know that takes the Holy Spirit to give you the strength and the boldness to
26:18speak such words you remember in the book of Acts when the Christians were being persecuted after the apostles had
26:25been arrested and then finally let out of prison what did they do they all gathered together for prayer and what
26:32did they pray for boldness and what did what happened then the room
26:37Shook and they were again filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to Proclaim boldly in the face of
26:44persecution and slander the mighty works of God so this is the sense then that we are to
26:51understand this passage from Joel that Peter here is pro is
26:56seeing the Fulfillment of it because all of these people you think every one of those Christians were prophets that day
27:02in the narrow this is an office of the Prophet they have the gift of Prophecy kind of thing no they were all
27:08prophesying that day in the way that we are all prophesying and that is proclaiming the Oracles of God so your
27:15sons and your daughters they will prophesy that means boys and girls men and women alike and by the way there’s
27:21nothing in between there’s only those two categories if they’re not sure about that I know shock of shocks will
27:27probably arrest me after the service to let me know when the authorities arrive but we are in Minnesota though so but
27:35all that being said you’ll note that everybody has the Holy Spirit as
27:41Christians and when we proclaim the Oracles of God and the great news of Jesus Christ and crucified for our sins
27:47we are fulfilling this prophecy as Christ is Promised young men will see
27:53Visions old men dream dreams and they have even a on my male and female servants in those days I will pour out
28:01my spirit and they shall prophesy and then the next part is really cryptic
28:07it kind of takes an interesting turn I will show wonders in the heaven above
28:13signs on the earth below blood fire Vapor of smoke that’s quite a
28:21that’s quite a segue right in fact that wasn’t even a segue that was just a hard turn into the what’s happening now right
28:27Blood Fire smoke what is going on here the sun shall be turned to Darkness
28:35the moon to blood before the day of the Lord comes the great and magnificent day
28:40didn’t we get a foretaste of that well Jesus was on the cross
28:45at noon the sun no longer gave its light and Christ spent the last three hours of
28:51his of his suffering for your sins and mine he did it in the dark it was as if the sun itself couldn’t
28:58couldn’t bear to watch and even had to hide its light and as a result of it the
29:03sun was darkened the moon turned to blood nothing it went on for three hours
29:09and what’s interesting if you do your historical research on this you’ll find that that is also recorded in several
29:16different places in Antiquity that Strange Day where the sun just disappeared for hours and then finally
29:22came back Christ’s suffering and you’ll note that was just 50 days earlier
29:2750 days earlier for the people who were there for the Feast of Pentecost and they would have all remembered that oh
29:33yeah that happened just that just happened almost two months ago yeah I’ll never forget that day
29:40and that’s kind of the point and then here comes the kicker the whole point of the text the tongues
29:46isn’t the point not even the holy spirit is the point the holy spirit is there pointing people
29:54to Jesus because the point is this it shall come to pass that everyone who
30:01calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
30:07and this is something you and I need Assurance of you’ll note that every week we come here
30:13and we begin our service with a confession of sins I have sinned against God and thought
30:18word Deed by what I’ve done and by what I’ve left undone right we confess that we are by Nature sinful and unclean we
30:25have sinned against God and thought word indeed all these things are true about each and every one of us
30:31and if we didn’t have a message of Hope week in and week out it would be very
30:37easy to despair it really would because we all know that when
30:45when we do our best to try to change things in our lives turn them around
30:51there’s always an initial part of it that just starts
30:57off well and then over a period of time it tapers off and next thing you know you’re back to your bad habits right
31:04this is how this goes and and if my salvation and your salvation were based
31:10upon our do-goodedness if we’re based upon our sanctification if we’re based
31:16upon us hitting morality metrics right and then none of us would be saved
31:24but the whole point of this is that the gospel is now being preached on the day of Pentecost and as the prophet Joel
31:31prophesied and you’ll note Joel’s a real Prophet he’s his point is that everyone
31:36you me Jew Gentile Norwegian Swede polish or Asian it doesn’t matter where
31:44you from everyone who calls on the name of Jesus Christ will be saved
31:53because salvation is a free gift it’s free to us
31:58but it cost Jesus his very life which he willingly laid down so that you and I can be forgiven and pardoned and
32:06reconciled to the god whom we have all offended by our great sin and our vice
32:13so note here brothers and sisters cuckoo juice is out of the question it’s not even on the table here instead
32:20you’ll note that a sober reading of these texts leads us to realize that we
32:26all have the Holy Spirit and every single one of us who have shared the good news of Jesus Christ whether you be
32:34a child or an adult who’ve spoken the words of God Faithfully to another you
32:39have fulfilled this prophecy you having the Holy Spirit have prophesied and told
32:45the truth of the very Oracles of God to a Dying World that needs it and even to yourself who needs it as well
32:51so let us this Pentecost thank Christ that he has not left us as orphans that
32:57he has given us such a powerful and great gift as the Holy Spirit the third
33:02person of the Trinity who indwells us convicts us of our sin and our unbelief but also gives us the great assurance
33:08that we are forgiven in Jesus Christ and let us then hold fast to this promise and never let it go we who’ve now called
33:16on the name of Jesus Christ as the scriptures say we shall be saved in fact
33:22we are now ah what a blessed Pentecost what a great message thank you Lord Jesus in the name
33:29of Jesus Amen
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