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Series A – Eighteenth Sunday After Pentecost – Sunday, October 01, 2023 | Pr. Chris Rosebrough

Welcome to the Teaching Ministry of Kongsvinger Lutheran Church. Kongsvinger is a beacon for the Gospel of Jesus Christ and is located on the plains of Northwestern Minnesota. We proclaim Christ and Him crucified for our sins and salvation by grace through faith alone, and now, here’s a message from Pastor Chris Rosebrough:

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0:22	The holy Gospel
0:29	According to Saint Matthew the 21st chapter
0:38	when Jesus entered the temple the chief priests and the Elders of the people came up to him as he was teaching and
0:44	said by what Authority are you doing these things and who gave you this authority Jesus answered them I will
0:51	also ask you one question if you tell me the answer then I will tell you by what Authority I do these things the baptism
0:57	of John from where did it come from heaven or from man and they discussed it among
1:03	themselves saying if we say from Heaven he will say to us why then did you not believe him but if we say from man we
1:10	are afraid of the crowd for they all hold that John was a prophet so they answered Jesus we do not know and he
1:15	said to them well neither will I tell you by what Authority I do these things so what do you think a man had two sons
1:21	and he went to the first and said Son go and work in the vineyard today and he answered I will not but afterward he
1:28	changed his mind and he went and he went to the other son and said to the same and he answered I will go sir but he did
1:35	not go which of the two did the will of his father they said the first Jesus said to them truly I say to you the tax
1:41	collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you for John came to you in the way of righteousness
1:48	and you did not believe him but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him and even that when you saw it you
1:55	did not afterward change your minds and believe him this is the Gospel of the Lord in the name of Jesus
2:02	Paul writes an epistle to the Philippians and it sounds quite fatherly
2:08	if you think about it and he’s admonishing encouraging his children in
2:14	the faith to do all things without grumbling I think we have to do that with all of our children whether they’re
2:20	spiritual children or grown children or even small kids do things all things
2:25	without grumbling or disputing that you may be blameless and innocent children of God without blemish in the midst of a
2:32	crooked and twisted generation among whom you shine as lights in the world holding fast to the word of life so that
2:41	in the day of Christ I may be proud that I did not run in vain or labor in vain one of the things I remember very
2:49	distinctly is that back when I was first pastor of Kong’s Winger Lutheran Church we we used to when we would leave the
2:57	the Divine service I would line up over there and people would come by and shake my hand and stuff like this and uh one
3:04	woman came up to me one day and she says you know pastor I’m I’m I I just figured it out
3:11	what’d you figure out I figured it out that you are preaching to all of us as if we’re all Christians
3:19	and I said yeah how is the scandalous she said well I
3:26	mean you isn’t that presumptuous I said no a Christian Church called me to be
3:32	their Pastor don’t you think I should treat everybody like they’re Christians you know because here’s the thing I
3:39	remember when I was a Nazarene one of the things I note about Nazarene preaching is they preached to everybody
3:44	who shows up to church every single Sunday as if they’re not Christians at all as if they’re potential Christians
3:50	you know you can probably someday attain christianhood okay this is a this is a
3:56	not a good way to preach but you’ll note here the Apostle Paul in this letter is that he’s written to the church at
4:02	Philippi he’s treating them all as Christians and he’s treating them as his spiritual
4:09	children and you’ll I know a thing of two about parenting I I’ve raised three
4:14	kids and I can tell you things get a little different when your children get to be adults you’re still parenting them
4:20	but the whole mode changes and there’s nothing worse and I mean really mean this there’s nothing worse than having
4:27	raised a child in the way they should go and then when they become adults they go
4:32	the different way right it’s it’s painful it’s absolutely painful to watch your children make really awful
4:39	decisions and to make sinful decisions or even worse Wander from the Christian
4:44	faith it’s very painful is it any wonder that Paul says you know that I may be
4:49	proud that I did not run in vain or labor in vain these are these are the anxieties that fathers have as well as
4:55	mothers but you’re going to know the admonition here is to do what hold fast
5:01	to the Word of Life hold fast to the word of life if you remember back in the
5:08	Garden of Eden what got us into all this misery that we seem to experience in this life was all because well Adam
5:16	listened to the voice of his wife and Eve listened to the voice of the serpent rather than to the voice of God
5:23	and things have been going downhill ever since it’s quite the mess if you think about it and over again I I just marvel
5:31	as I do my work on fighting for the faith I Marvel at the number of people
5:36	who attack the word of God or ignore the word of God or wantonly twist the word
5:44	of God it’s always fascinating you know when I see somebody attacking the scriptures I know exactly what they’re
5:51	doing what they’re doing is basically trying to knock the biblical texts out get them out got shot basically silence
5:58	God so that they can replace the voice of God with their own voice this is a
6:05	dangerous dangerous thing to do but we as Christians are not admonished to do that we’re instead admonished to hold
6:11	fast to the word of life and you sit there and go yeah but in the Bible there’s these bits that that don’t seem
6:17	to fit with kind of how we view things here in the modern world right but I
6:23	would note every word of God proves to be true and scientific theories they
6:28	sure do change quite frequently right when I was growing up we didn’t have the
6:33	DNA genome sequenced like we do now and we didn’t have the well we had the
6:41	Hubble telescope kind of late in the 80s if I’m remembering correctly but that that James Webb Telescope we didn’t have
6:48	that thing and I would note that with each of the improvements that we’ve made technologically in the world of science
6:54	it’s disrupted previous theories and so all of that being said don’t hang your
6:59	hat on science hang your hat on the word of God because every word of God proves to be true but now you think about it
7:06	our problem as human beings is that we don’t want to listen to the word of God is in any Wonder then that we have the
7:13	third commandment and I like the way that Luther addresses the third commandment remember the Sabbath day by
7:19	keeping it holy and then he asked the question what does this mean right and the answer is that we should fear and
7:25	love God so that we do not despise preaching and his word but hold it
7:31	sacred gladly hear and learn it and I can legitimately say times in my life
7:37	that I am not happy with myself are those times when I haven’t held fast to
7:44	the word of life but stopped listening to it and listen to other voices that legitimately led me astray of course I
7:51	participated in my own leading astray because I stopped listening to the word of life not a good thing to do when you
7:58	think of King David you can think of King David that whole affair with
8:03	Bathsheba and everything that went wrong there you see he saw this woman she was
8:08	beautiful she happened to already be married invited her up to his place and then he knocked her up got her pregnant
8:15	and when he found out that she was pregnant then he murdered her her husband and then married her hoping that
8:22	nobody would be able to kind of figure all of this out but do you think God didn’t see it but when he was rebuked by
8:27	Nathan the prophet God sent Nathan the prophet to sort some things out with David and to confront him and to rebuke
8:33	him Nathan the prophet ends up telling this Parable kind of starting off by telling this parable about a poor man
8:40	somebody who has very little means regarding money and one of the things he did own of the of the things he had on
8:46	this Earth was a was a lamb that he loved so much treated it like a daughter it ate from his hand and he just loved
8:53	this thing but a rich man his next door neighbor had somebody come and visit him from Germany and so what did he do I’m
9:01	sorry I had to throw that in there so what did he do he he killed the poor man’s lamb and fed it to his guests and
9:08	of course anger of David here Burns hot against the man who did this but as at that
9:16	point Nathan Springs the Trap and he said to David you’re the man you’re the one who did this and then he goes on and
9:23	here’s what he says thus says Yahweh the god of Israel I anointed you the king over Israel I delivered you out of the
9:28	hand of Saul I gave you your Master’s house and your Master’s wives into your
9:34	arms and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah and if this were too little I would add to as much more and here it
9:40	comes why why have you despised the word of Yahweh to do what is evil in his
9:47	sight and that’s exactly what he did but
9:53	you’ll note that every time we sin against God in thought word Deed by what we do by what we don’t
10:01	do that we’re supposed to do we also can hear Nathan the prophet condemning us
10:07	why have you despised the word of Yahweh to do what is evil in his sight and so
10:12	we rightly we rightly recognize that God’s word condemns each and every one of us for many great evils but at the
10:20	end of the day every evil that we commit every sin that we commit every
10:25	Commandment that we transgress at the core of it is the sin of idolatry and
10:31	the breaking of the first commandment listening to other voices trusting them
10:36	rather than trusting trusting the word of the Lord in fact if
10:42	you think of Our Gospel text today um a touch on it briefly because it’s not the main focus of my sermon but in
10:48	Our Gospel text today there’s something fascinating that is taking place at least worth noting and that is is that
10:56	when Jesus in this Parable or in this in this text is what is he doing he’s
11:02	preaching he’s teaching you know Jesus wasn’t casting the money changers out of
11:07	the temple that was one time when the uh the the Pharisees and the chief priests and the scribes can ask Jesus by what
11:14	Authority he was doing these things but our gospel text begins with these words and when Jesus entered the temple the
11:21	chief priests and the elders the people came up to him as he was teaching what was Jesus doing he was preaching
11:28	the word of God he wasn’t causing a commotion raising a riot he wasn’t casting the money changers out of
11:35	the temple he wasn’t doing anything that really should be considered scandalous
11:40	what was he doing he was teaching he was teaching the word of God because he is
11:46	the word of God in human flesh and so he’s challenged at this point by what Authority are you doing these things and
11:53	who gave you this authority Jesus then poses a question to them that they don’t answer
11:59	and the fact that they don’t answer it proves something that they’re listening to different voices listen to the way
12:05	this goes down I also will ask you one question and if you tell me the answer then I will also tell you by what
12:11	Authority I do these things the baptism of John the Baptist where did it come from from heaven or from man pretty
12:17	straightforward question right so they discussed it among themselves saying and
12:22	listen to how this deliberation goes if we say it’s from Heaven he will say to us well why then did you not believe him
12:31	fair question right he that that’s but if we say well it’s for man we’re afraid
12:38	of the crowd for they are hold that John was a prophet
12:43	do you see the problem here it’s kind of a sin of omission if you think about it who’s the one person they’re not afraid
12:50	of God they don’t fear God
12:56	they fear the crowd but they don’t fear God and by them getting all upset that
13:03	Jesus is teaching in the temple it shows that they despise God’s word
13:10	they don’t listen to it in fact that’s kind of the point that Jesus makes with
13:16	the parable that follows so what do you think a man had two sons he went to the first and said Son go and work in the
13:23	vineyard today and he answered I will not this sounds like me when I was a kid my mom says it’s Saturday I need you to
13:29	vacuum the house no I want to watch I won’t talk about what I want to watch
13:35	I want to watch Sid and Marty Croft right you know anyway you get the idea no I will not but afterward he changed
13:43	his mind he repented and he went he went to the other son and it’s clear
13:48	who Jesus is referring to here the other son is typified by the scribes and the
13:53	Pharisees and the chief priests he went to the other son and he said he said the
13:58	same thing and he said I will go serve but he did not go which of the two did the will of his
14:05	father well it’s obvious the first and then Jesus says these words
14:12	truly I say to you the tax collectors and the prostitutes they go into the kingdom of God before you for John came
14:18	to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him
14:24	the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him why because he was from God
14:30	and what was his message repent repent turn from your wickedness God will
14:37	forgive and even when you saw it you did not afterward change your minds and believe him and the whole point that
14:43	Jesus is making is is that God is the one who sent John the Baptist and the message that John the Baptist preaches
14:49	the same message we hear all the prophets of the Old Testament preaching it’s the same message that Christ
14:55	preached it’s the same message the apostles preached the preaching of repentance and so with that in mind note
15:02	then that we are here today because the
15:07	word of God has come to each and every one of us and like those tax collectors
15:13	and prostitutes you all have believed the word of God
15:18	the reason you’re here is because you want to hear his word you want to hear
15:23	it rightly taught you want to hear it convict you of your sins you want to
15:28	hear the comforting words of the Forgiveness of sins one by Christ you’re here to Feast on his body and blood and
15:36	so you’ll note then that the word comes to us not to condemn us today but to
15:41	encourage us because we are holding fast to the word
15:47	of Truth that’s the reason why we’re here so here the comforting and encouraging fatherly
15:53	words of the Apostle Paul as he wrote to the church at Philippi if there’s any
15:59	encouragement in Christ if there’s any comfort from love if there’s any
16:05	participation in the spirit and any affection and sympathy complete my Joy
16:11	by being of the same mind having the same love being in full Accord and of
16:18	one mind I always like to point out the fact that there’s an accord here that means that the apostles drove a Honda so
16:25	what sorry sorry
16:32	all of that being said note then that this is describing the Christian Life
16:37	the fruit of the spirit is love joy peace patience
16:43	kindness gentleness self-control right against
16:48	such things there is no law and so the Apostle Paul is encouraging us as well as the Church of Philippi in a fatherly
16:56	way encouraging us about the encouragement that is in Christ the comfort that we have from love this
17:02	participation in the spirit that we participate in together the affection and the sympathy and the Accord that we
17:09	all have together which is ours in Christ and Paul reminds us that the root
17:15	of sin is selfishness if you think about it Satan is the ultimate narcissist and how
17:22	do we know this because he demands that people worship him and he’s such a sick
17:27	puppy that he legitimately tried to convince his creator to worship him when
17:33	he tempted Christ in the wilderness who does that right and when we are at our
17:39	worst in the most like Satan we are selfish we are thinking about our own
17:44	interests not the interests of others it’s all about the Unholy Trinity of Me Myself and I what’s in it for me with
17:53	him is it the way we speak we talk about it back in the corporate world in fact over and again when you train sales
17:59	people on how to become really good salespeople they excel in telling
18:05	narratives to people to buy such a big product because of what’s in it for them
18:11	to get them to imagine how their lives would be so much greater and better and
18:17	easier if they just spend 10 thousand dollars on this Gizmo it’ll do all of this and they always and again it’s the
18:23	with him the what’s in it for me and you’ll note this is how our society is
18:29	trained by our consumer culture but Paul here reminding us to the Holy Spirit he
18:35	says these words do nothing not some things do nothing from selfish ambition
18:42	or vain conceit but in humility count others as more significant than
18:49	yourselves hmm that’s a little hard to do isn’t it
18:56	but I I I would I would have you try this on for a little bit here I remind
19:02	you that as a pastor I wear a uniform and this bit right here is supposed to
19:10	remind you that this is a slave shackle you’ll note that I don’t cast Vision
19:16	here at Kong’s finger Lutheran Church this isn’t my church this is Christ’s
19:21	Church and I’m just the house slave I’m a well-trained house slave middle class
19:27	house slave but that’s my job and if I ever get uppity all you have to do is point to my caller and say Pastor you’ve
19:33	forgotten that you’re a Slave get back to the bottom where you belong
19:39	and I like the fact that in the past in Christendom and Western Society
19:44	government officials oftentimes were called ministers the Prime Minister rather than the
19:52	president the Prime Minister the Minister of Defense the minister of this and the word Minister reminds us of what
19:59	that government officials are there to do something not to rule and to Reign
20:05	but to minister to be the Servants of society in helping Society meet its
20:11	greater needs that it has together but oftentimes we trade ministers for
20:17	ambitious young men who wear skinny jeans and cast vision and demand
20:22	obedience and demand Allegiance and honor and things like this right
20:28	that’s out of place altogether and so the way Christ has set everything
20:35	up we are to do nothing from selfish ambition or vain conceit in humility we
20:40	are to count others as more significant than ourselves and imagine what a great
20:45	place this world would be if we all did that and by the way think about this
20:53	when you kind of sort this out in your mind slaves are the ones who have the
20:59	most freedom and those who aspire to rule and to
21:05	Reign and to wield power and build Empires to their name and their egos
21:10	they are the most enslaved work this out with me here okay at the bottom
21:17	man it’s great there’s nobody ambitious everybody down at the bottom they’ve had
21:23	they’ve had all that ambition knocked out of them right they’ve suffered tremendously and they’ve seen the veneer
21:30	of this world stripped off and they see it for the ugly terrible thing that it is right and at the bottom it’s really
21:37	fun that’s where all the really shady characters are let me tell you it’s it’s really a lot of fun down there right but
21:42	here’s the thing as a slave you can serve everybody the only person you cannot serve is the one who doesn’t want
21:48	to be served but down at the bottom you have perfect freedom to serve and here’s
21:53	the thing down at the bottom where everybody’s serving each other everybody’s needs are met it’s kind of fun but oh the guy who wants to climb to
22:00	the top who wants to make the name for himself right what does he have to do he has to climb up the backs of the dead
22:07	bodies that he’s murdered in order to get to the top of the pyramid and while he’s up there what does he have to do
22:13	make sure that he’s going to protect his position so that nobody can knock him off the top how long does that last
22:21	not very long because it’s just a matter of time before that guy either dies or somebody
22:27	knocks him off the top and then What Becomes of all of his ambition it goes away and at the end of it when
22:35	that person dies everyone goes oh thank God that person’s dead right because
22:41	when we’re serving ourselves we are tyrannical this is what the word teaches us
22:49	so as Christians we are not to be selfish or ambitious or conceited
22:54	instead in humility count others as more significant than ourselves Let each of
22:59	you then not only look only to his own interest but also to the interests of others this answers the long question
23:05	from The Book of Genesis and My Brother’s Keeper the answer is yes you are
23:10	have this mind among yourselves which is already yours in Christ Jesus you
23:16	already possess this all right have you ever like gone into your coat closet grabbed a coat reached your hand in and
23:23	pulled out a 20 bill that was in your pocket that you didn’t even know you had it’s like oh
23:28	it’s the best thing ever like finding money in a pocket you know in a code or
23:33	something like that that’s the thing it’s you had it the whole time and you didn’t even know it but that’s what Paul
23:38	here is saying have this mind among yourselves which is already yours in Christ Jesus you already possessed this
23:45	as his children he says this who though he was in the very morphe I think I
23:51	would like to translate morphe here as nature he was in he was by Nature God he
23:57	did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped good word by the way grasped
24:04	think this out with me here um if you think about the Garden of Eden
24:10	there is Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and the serpent is speaking words to the woman saying when you eat of this
24:17	fruit you will be like God knowing good and evil and what does she do she
24:24	reaches out her hand and she grasps the fruit because she want wants to be like
24:29	God Christ on the other hand is God he’s God of God light of light very God of very
24:35	God but God not made we just confess that in the nice seeing Creed he by nature is God yet he didn’t count
24:42	equality with God a thing to be grasped so he emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave being born in the
24:49	likeness of men and being found in human form human nature he humbled himself by becoming
24:56	obedient to the point of death even death on a cross and this is what saves us we selfishly ambitious conceited
25:04	narcissistic Satan like children of the devil which is what we are when we are conceived Christ has taken all of our
25:12	sins upon himself humbling himself to serve all of us and serving us he has done exceedingly
25:20	well at taking our sin upon himself laying down his life bleeding and
25:26	suffering the penalty of our sins in our place so that we can be forgiven
25:33	and you’ll note the one who humbled himself in this way God the father has
25:38	highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name so the
25:44	name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven on Earth and under the Earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ
25:49	is Lord to the glory of God the father so have you figured it out yet the reason why you’re able to look not only
25:55	to your own interest but also to the interests of others is because this very mind of Christ is what you already
26:01	possess it’s the hundred dollar bill in your in your coat pocket right now
26:07	which makes it possible for us to have all of that love and perfect and
26:13	encouragement and comfort and pers and participation and Accord that Paul was
26:20	talking about all because of Christ it is only through the gospel that we are to able to achieve such great things
26:27	because in our sin we cannot therefore God has I highly exalted him bestowed on him the name that is above
26:33	every name at the name of Jesus every knee will bow in every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory
26:40	of God the father and therefore he says because of this
26:45	my beloved as you have always obeyed so now not only in my presence but much
26:50	more in my absence work out your own salvation with fear and trembling for it is God who works in you both to Will and
26:58	to work for his good pleasure you’ll note then that we unlike the scribes and the Pharisees in
27:05	our Parable today and Our Gospel we don’t fear men we rightly fear God and because of our
27:13	fear of God we work out our salvation by recognizing that it is God who works in
27:18	us to Will and to do for his good pleasure and it is therefore this is the reason why then we are able to do things
27:25	without grumbling or disputing and when disputes come up we should address them swiftly address
27:33	them swiftly with the gospel with reconciliation love mercy and forgiveness and so note that Paul says
27:40	so that you may be blameless and innocent children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation among whom you shine as
27:48	lights in the world and that’s the thing is that those who have the freedom that
27:53	comes from Christ having been set free from not only God’s Wrath and judgment
28:00	but also set free from slavery to sin death and the devil those who walk in
28:07	the freedom of slaves on oxymoron indeed but yet it’s true that we then are able
28:14	to shine like lights in the world and are the way we live stands out it’s
28:20	absolutely true but when we decide to be like the world stop listening to the
28:26	voice of God in his his word and instead follow the world’s values of looking out for me myself and I the light goes out
28:34	and we join the darkness and just like the world
28:40	but you are all Christians so you’ll note then that we shine as
28:46	lights in the world because we hold fast to the word of life so that on the day of Christ not only
28:53	will Paul be proud your pastor will be proud Christ will be proud that he
28:59	didn’t run in or labor in vain and all of this because we are attentive to the
29:05	word here then the admonition from the Old Testament to the children of Israel
29:10	from that famous passage from Deuteronomy 6 verse 4. it begins with
29:15	these very famous words
29:22	that’s how it reads in the Hebrew hear o Israel Yahweh Our God Yahweh is one
29:30	it’s the famous text every Jew knows this but it goes on and says you shall
29:35	love Yahweh your God with all of your heart with all of your soul with all of your might and these words that I
29:43	command you today shall be on your heart you shall teach them diligently to your children you shall talk of them when you
29:50	sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when
29:55	you rise you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes you shall
30:02	write them on the doorposts of your house and on your Gates a word saturated life
30:10	is what is being described here in Deuteronomy 6 4 and because we’ve been
30:15	set free by Christ we are set free then to live this word saturated life where we
30:23	meditate on it think on it teach it to our children ourselves thinking about it
30:28	to the point where it becomes even artwork in our own houses and maybe even tattoos on our own body yeah I said that
30:36	I know I said I shouldn’t say that in a Norwegian Lutheran church but I did but but you get the idea and even the
30:42	Apostle Peter as he was getting ready to finish his course the Apostle Peter writes this he
30:49	says we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to the power and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
30:55	but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty for when he received honor and Glory
31:00	from God the father and the voice was born to him by the Majestic Glory this is my beloved Son with whom I am well
31:07	pleased we ourselves heard this voice born from heaven for we were with him on
31:12	the Holy Mountain and we have the prophetic word which is more fully confirmed to which you will do well to
31:18	pay attention to as a lamp shining in a dark place until the day Dons and The Morning Star rises in your hearts
31:24	knowing this first of all that no prophecy of scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation no prophecy
31:30	was ever produced by the will of men but men spoke from God as they were carried
31:35	Along by the Holy Spirit brothers and sisters God is speaking to this day he speaks to us in his word and you know
31:42	that his word is true and all things that we need for life and for salvation
31:48	as well as to equip us for every good work that God would prepare us for is in this word of life
31:54	so hold fast to the Word of Life do not let go of it let it saturate your very
32:02	being let it be a big part of every day that you exist on this planet a day
32:08	where you will talk about it teach it to your children and your grandchildren it’ll you’ll sit and talk of what’s
32:15	going on in the scriptures and what it means among yourselves even as you consider this sermon and the sermons to
32:21	come and the word that will be preached to you you’ll talk of God’s word when you walk by the wayside and when you lie
32:28	down and when you rise and it’ll be well all over you that’s kind of the point
32:34	because every word of God proves to be true and because you are already
32:39	forgiven in Christ and have this mindset that we then would not abandon God’s
32:45	word but continue to hear it God will have mercy on you for all the times when you have despised his word and shoved it
32:51	away or refused to hear it but still his voice calls you from the scriptures to come and to hear that your sins are evil
32:59	and to hear that Christ is bled and died for all of them and assure you with the comforting words that there is hope even
33:06	for you in the world to come because Christ has set a place for you at his Heavenly table at the marriage Feast of
33:12	the lamb and you have been invited and because you are here you are on your way to that very thing
33:19	so let us rejoice let us hold fast to the word as Christians and let us repent
33:24	of all the times when we haven’t heard it but also to not let go hold fast as
33:29	Paul says in the name of Jesus Amen

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